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		<title>By: Kelley</title>
		<link>http://kelleyeskridge.com/story-is-real/comment-page-1/#comment-6497</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do like it, very much.  Thank you!  

Shakespeare&#039;s dead (grin).  And anyway, he had his own relationship with writing.  I imagine that it possessed him with the same strength and passion that you have written about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do like it, very much.  Thank you!  </p>
<p>Shakespeare&#8217;s dead (grin).  And anyway, he had his own relationship with writing.  I imagine that it possessed him with the same strength and passion that you have written about.</p>
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		<title>By: karina</title>
		<link>http://kelleyeskridge.com/story-is-real/comment-page-1/#comment-6449</link>
		<dc:creator>karina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote &lt;a href=&quot;http://shetranslates.com/2008/emo-poems-nine-inch-notions/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Nine Inch Notions&quot;&lt;/a&gt; with you and Nicola in mind. The &quot;she&quot; in it is &quot;story&quot;, and she belongs to you. I hope you like it even though I&#039;m pretty convinced that Shakespeare hates it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote <a href="http://shetranslates.com/2008/emo-poems-nine-inch-notions/" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Nine Inch Notions&#8221;</a> with you and Nicola in mind. The &#8220;she&#8221; in it is &#8220;story&#8221;, and she belongs to you. I hope you like it even though I&#8217;m pretty convinced that Shakespeare hates it.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://kelleyeskridge.com/story-is-real/comment-page-1/#comment-193</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kelley,  my god it gets complicated fast!  The story, any story,  is real for your understanding of the world. Same as author, don&#039;t you think?  In some sense I don&#039;t understand Solitaire at all, I just overlay my interpretation of what you meant!!!  I&#039;m laughing now . . .
Still, I loved YOUR story and how it made me feel - my own feelings!!!   I do also enjoy your visceral excitement in finding a new reason for connection with story. Thank you for sharing it . . . 

I had one other pressured thought on this - on a mirrored neuron understanding of the world . . . true sociopaths take advantage of it! That&#039;s part of the horror - those who can/will/easily take advantage of empathy . . . . it makes me shudder just to think of it.

Though it belongs elsewhere . . . congrats on your successful &lt;a href=&quot;/./dance-to-the-music&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dancing debut&lt;/a&gt;! If I&#039;m ever in the area I&#039;ll be sure to check it and you out! Lucky you too . . . my partner would kill me before she&#039;d &quot;let&quot; me dance in public for money . . . much less watch me do it. LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelley,  my god it gets complicated fast!  The story, any story,  is real for your understanding of the world. Same as author, don&#8217;t you think?  In some sense I don&#8217;t understand Solitaire at all, I just overlay my interpretation of what you meant!!!  I&#8217;m laughing now . . .<br />
Still, I loved YOUR story and how it made me feel &#8211; my own feelings!!!   I do also enjoy your visceral excitement in finding a new reason for connection with story. Thank you for sharing it . . . </p>
<p>I had one other pressured thought on this &#8211; on a mirrored neuron understanding of the world . . . true sociopaths take advantage of it! That&#8217;s part of the horror &#8211; those who can/will/easily take advantage of empathy . . . . it makes me shudder just to think of it.</p>
<p>Though it belongs elsewhere . . . congrats on your successful <a href="/./dance-to-the-music" rel="nofollow">dancing debut</a>! If I&#8217;m ever in the area I&#8217;ll be sure to check it and you out! Lucky you too . . . my partner would kill me before she&#8217;d &#8220;let&#8221; me dance in public for money . . . much less watch me do it. LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: jean r</title>
		<link>http://kelleyeskridge.com/story-is-real/comment-page-1/#comment-184</link>
		<dc:creator>jean r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 04:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an identical twin, I find discussion of mirror neurons both intriguing and...well...duh.  Not news.  How empathy happens is a discussion I guess I&#039;ve met my whole life, with a variety of insights and responses that change with whatever  intelligence and articulateness I could muster decade by decade.   I used to say to &quot;singletons&quot; something like, &quot;Well, as a twin, you enter life in a shared bubble.  It took me years to understand that everyone does not live, nor necessarily  like intimacy;  you mean people don&#039;t GET each other without words?&quot;   Understanding so fundamentally  a face so like your own as it changes through a minute&#039;s (and then a lifetime&#039;s) emotions...well I never have found language for that place of non-language.  On the other hand, I sometimes explain to those who claim to not &quot;get&quot; art in storytelling, that what I like about literature--and theater in particular--is that &quot;I get to sit in the dark and watch other people emote and I get to feel affected, but I don&#039;t have to give them a response.&quot;  I can watch and muse without firing my mirror neurons.  Well, I guess they do &quot;fire&quot;.  That would be your point, I suppose:  that I inescapably respond to the actors&#039;&#039; emoting because of the nature of my brain cells...hmm.  I will think about all this for some time, I expect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an identical twin, I find discussion of mirror neurons both intriguing and&#8230;well&#8230;duh.  Not news.  How empathy happens is a discussion I guess I&#8217;ve met my whole life, with a variety of insights and responses that change with whatever  intelligence and articulateness I could muster decade by decade.   I used to say to &#8220;singletons&#8221; something like, &#8220;Well, as a twin, you enter life in a shared bubble.  It took me years to understand that everyone does not live, nor necessarily  like intimacy;  you mean people don&#8217;t GET each other without words?&#8221;   Understanding so fundamentally  a face so like your own as it changes through a minute&#8217;s (and then a lifetime&#8217;s) emotions&#8230;well I never have found language for that place of non-language.  On the other hand, I sometimes explain to those who claim to not &#8220;get&#8221; art in storytelling, that what I like about literature&#8211;and theater in particular&#8211;is that &#8220;I get to sit in the dark and watch other people emote and I get to feel affected, but I don&#8217;t have to give them a response.&#8221;  I can watch and muse without firing my mirror neurons.  Well, I guess they do &#8220;fire&#8221;.  That would be your point, I suppose:  that I inescapably respond to the actors&#8221; emoting because of the nature of my brain cells&#8230;hmm.  I will think about all this for some time, I expect.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelley</title>
		<link>http://kelleyeskridge.com/story-is-real/comment-page-1/#comment-182</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 00:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robin, this is absolutely true -- my mirror-neuronal response to a story, for example (since that&#039;s my admittedly narrow focus here) doesn&#039;t give me any insight at all into the creator.  And yet that&#039;s a mistake we make all the time, isn&#039;t it?  To confuse the artist with the art.  To want the artist to be &quot;like&quot; the creation.  But that&#039;s another topic (grin).

I think the comparison to language is spot on.  Communication can be a tricky thing even between people who know each other very well, mostly because of our differences in meaning.  I certainly wasn&#039;t trying to say that we are all emotionally or psychologically (or experientially) alike, or even that we should be (shudder).  But language is the tool we have to connect with each other in a way that seems, as you&#039;ve said, essential to our survival.  And mirror neurons are another tool.  But they are, at best, a tool of empathy -- not telepathy.

So my response to story is different from yours and anyone&#039;s -- but   it&#039;s a real response.  That&#039;s what I&#039;m goobing on right now.  When I fall into a story to that extent, it&#039;s a &quot;real&quot; experience as far as that part of my brain is concerned.  And I love that.  The best story has always &lt;em&gt;felt&lt;/em&gt; real to me, in the negative-capability &quot;I know it&#039;s not real except then why am I crying&quot; way.  And now I know that it &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; real.  

I love the idea that what I do, if I do it well, plugs directly into someone else&#039;s brain that way.  

And I love that what I do, when I do it well, lives inside of me in a way that is not entirely metaphorical.  I make story, and it bursts in my brain with all the force of my particular background of experience and assigned meaning brought to bear, so that it is powerful and rich for me in ways that I can barely describe.  I&#039;ve been searching for a while for a way to talk about this feeling, and mirror neurons are helping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin, this is absolutely true &#8212; my mirror-neuronal response to a story, for example (since that&#8217;s my admittedly narrow focus here) doesn&#8217;t give me any insight at all into the creator.  And yet that&#8217;s a mistake we make all the time, isn&#8217;t it?  To confuse the artist with the art.  To want the artist to be &#8220;like&#8221; the creation.  But that&#8217;s another topic (grin).</p>
<p>I think the comparison to language is spot on.  Communication can be a tricky thing even between people who know each other very well, mostly because of our differences in meaning.  I certainly wasn&#8217;t trying to say that we are all emotionally or psychologically (or experientially) alike, or even that we should be (shudder).  But language is the tool we have to connect with each other in a way that seems, as you&#8217;ve said, essential to our survival.  And mirror neurons are another tool.  But they are, at best, a tool of empathy &#8212; not telepathy.</p>
<p>So my response to story is different from yours and anyone&#8217;s &#8212; but   it&#8217;s a real response.  That&#8217;s what I&#8217;m goobing on right now.  When I fall into a story to that extent, it&#8217;s a &#8220;real&#8221; experience as far as that part of my brain is concerned.  And I love that.  The best story has always <em>felt</em> real to me, in the negative-capability &#8220;I know it&#8217;s not real except then why am I crying&#8221; way.  And now I know that it <em>is</em> real.  </p>
<p>I love the idea that what I do, if I do it well, plugs directly into someone else&#8217;s brain that way.  </p>
<p>And I love that what I do, when I do it well, lives inside of me in a way that is not entirely metaphorical.  I make story, and it bursts in my brain with all the force of my particular background of experience and assigned meaning brought to bear, so that it is powerful and rich for me in ways that I can barely describe.  I&#8217;ve been searching for a while for a way to talk about this feeling, and mirror neurons are helping.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://kelleyeskridge.com/story-is-real/comment-page-1/#comment-178</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The joy and horror of mirror neurons. The Joy:  we can connect to others in an empathic way but it is a simplistic, chemical understanding of their actions. This ability to understand the other should never be underestimated. In fact humanity as a dominant species and as individuals within it, would seem to depend on it.

The Horror:  It does not lead to deep understanding.  You do not understand ME any better by understanding the change in my grip of the bat. You may understand that my intention has changed, and you may even have a fledgling understanding of why but you will not understand it as I do.  You are better able to survive (ie- you can get the hell outta there) but you do not feel as I feel. In fact, you are feeling something quite different. Even in describing your own event accurately you are re-living it as an &quot;as-if&quot;.  This is valuable, especially as a writer trying to ellicit a certain feeling state in others, but it is not the same as.

To me, it is similar to language. We use a &quot;common&quot; language as well, but green to me is a different green to you. &quot;Love&quot; is not  &quot;love&quot;.  How many times have others misconstrued your &quot;accurate&quot; description of an event?

It is also true that as story tellers we rely on this ability. Without it, it would all be just a bunch of  mumbo-jumbo. You write from a desire to connect, to be understood and show your understanding of others . . . maybe this is as close as you/we can get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The joy and horror of mirror neurons. The Joy:  we can connect to others in an empathic way but it is a simplistic, chemical understanding of their actions. This ability to understand the other should never be underestimated. In fact humanity as a dominant species and as individuals within it, would seem to depend on it.</p>
<p>The Horror:  It does not lead to deep understanding.  You do not understand ME any better by understanding the change in my grip of the bat. You may understand that my intention has changed, and you may even have a fledgling understanding of why but you will not understand it as I do.  You are better able to survive (ie- you can get the hell outta there) but you do not feel as I feel. In fact, you are feeling something quite different. Even in describing your own event accurately you are re-living it as an &#8220;as-if&#8221;.  This is valuable, especially as a writer trying to ellicit a certain feeling state in others, but it is not the same as.</p>
<p>To me, it is similar to language. We use a &#8220;common&#8221; language as well, but green to me is a different green to you. &#8220;Love&#8221; is not  &#8220;love&#8221;.  How many times have others misconstrued your &#8220;accurate&#8221; description of an event?</p>
<p>It is also true that as story tellers we rely on this ability. Without it, it would all be just a bunch of  mumbo-jumbo. You write from a desire to connect, to be understood and show your understanding of others . . . maybe this is as close as you/we can get.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
		<link>http://kelleyeskridge.com/story-is-real/comment-page-1/#comment-177</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Kelley, thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Kelley, thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Luey</title>
		<link>http://kelleyeskridge.com/story-is-real/comment-page-1/#comment-176</link>
		<dc:creator>Luey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one hell of a blog, Kelley. Hugs to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one hell of a blog, Kelley. Hugs to you.</p>
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